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DEFINING RESOLUTION IN 360°
With all full sphere 360° cameras, we have multiple image sensors, as no single lens can see everything. For example, in GoPro's Omni camera system, six HERO4 Black Edition cameras are each shooting 2704x2032. So does that mean the resolution should be 6x2704x2032? Well, no, it doesn't. That is the amount of pixel data collected, but it is not the resolution of the stitched 360° image. To produce a 360 image, there is intentional overlap between the cameras with each camera capturing a small segment seen by an adjacent camera. The greater the overlap, the better the stitch quality, however the lower the effective resolution since redundant pixels do not add to the final output. Uikit 3 joomla template. Omni stitches up to 8K, which is the standard 7680 pixels by 3840 (using the common equirectangular 360 projection). Again 8K = 8 x 960 or 7680 pixels. Here, the 8K is the number of pixels across the horizon-line, the unique number of pixels from left to right before the image would repeat. The number pixels across the horizon is a good indicator for resolution, as it is independent of 360° projection type and it is not falsely counting overlap regions as active pixels, so this is what GoPro is using for all our 360° products. 4K 360° means at least 3840 pixels are used across the horizon. 6K is at 5760 pixels, and 5.2K is at least 4992 pixels across the horizon [see figure 1]. All resolutions are determined after stitching.
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Powerdirector 17 Ultra installed on SSD
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Other users may have the answer, but in the mean time could you upload a short clip to a cloud sharing service and post the link here? That way people can try out some other conversion options as well. Reply
When I imported it int PD17 the thumbnail was white, and when I previewed it or placed on the timeline I heard the audio but the video was nothing but white.
I assumed it was a codec issue, rather than a problem with PD17's max resolution, so I converted the file into MagicYUV (which is what I always use for editing 4k or higher clips), and I could then view and edit the clip easily as seen here:
I wrote up a whole procedure on how to set up and use MagicYUV with PD about 3 years ago, but I had some serious things to deal with in my life at that time, and I stopped posting soon afterwards. None of that info remains on the forum, so I'm not sure how well that whole topic might be received at this point.
In short, the issue you're having is because PD doesn't natively work with the Cineform codec. It's a simple matter of converting it into a compatible format, and I believe there are many posts in the archives dealing with that situation.
Thanks!
Unfortunately the 3 items are not supported in current PowerDirector: 5.2K resolution, CineForm and ProRes codec.
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Unfortunately the 3 items are not supported in current PowerDirector: 5.2K resolution, CineForm and ProRes codec.
With all due respect, The King is referring to the 'out-of-the-box' (or freshly-downloaded) state of PowerDirector. He's correct that it doesn't come with either CineForm or ProRes codecs, and the maximum production profiles are set at 4k.
That doesn't mean you can't use PD with 5.2k clips, it just means you have to customize it!
Search the forum for which HD/4k formats people like using with PD, and how they convert the clips. As I mentioned in my last post,
Fusion 360 4k Vs
MagicYUV is my hands-down favorite and you can get the older rev 1.2 codec for free, or pay $9 for the improved v2.0. Get the trial version before you pay.I use
_(1080p).webm/800px--NASA_Thermonuclear_Art_%E2%80%93_The_Sun_In_Ultra-HD_(4K)_(1080p).webm.jpg "Fusion")
You'll also need to create a custom profile to produce @ 4992x2946 resolution. Follow the excellent advice of ynotfish in this thread for the detailed instructions. I've attached the H.265 MP4 profile I used to produce my sample clip, but you can choose H.264 or other options.
When all that is set, simply choose your custom profile when producing, and you're done! In my previous post, I linked to a GoPro Fusion sample clip. I added some text and produced in PD17. (It's the exact same resolution as the original, but ~12x smaller file size due to the 50Mbps bitrate )
Here are the produced clip details:
I've uploaded it to YT, but you'll have to download the clip from my OneDrive folder (here's a link) to get the original full res version to play with on your end.
Good Luck, and please post back with any questions!
| Filename | |
| Description | Sample GoPro Fusion 5.2k profile |
| Filesize | |
| Downloaded: | 226 time(s) |
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Powerdirector 17 Ultra installed on SSD
M.2 SSD editing drive
With all due respect, The King is referring to the 'out-of-the-box' (or freshly-downloaded) state of PowerDirector. He's correct that it doesn't come with either CineForm or ProRes codecs, and the maximum production profiles are set at 4k.
That doesn't mean you can't use PD with 5.2k clips, it just means you have to accesorize and customize it!
Search the forum for which HD/4k formats people like using with PD, and how they convert the clips. As I mentioned in myu last post, MagicYUV is my hands-down favorite and you can get the older rev 1.2 codec for free, or pay $9 for the improved v2.0. Get the trial version before you pay.
I use VirtualDub2 (VDub2) to do the conversion to MagicYUV, then just import the clip(s) into PD. You'll probably want to use Shadow Files to speed up PD because there's just so much data to move around when you're trying to edit any 5.2k clips.
You'll also need to create a custom profile to produce @ 4992x2946 resolution. Follow the excellent advice of ynotfish in this thread for the detailed instructions. I've attached the H.265 MP4 profile I used to produce my sample clip, but you can choose H.264 or other options.
When all that is set, simply choose your custom profile when producing, and you're done! In my previous post, I linked to a GoPro Fusion sample clip. I added some text and produced in PD17. (It's the exact same resolution as the original, but ~12x smaller file size due to the 50Mbps bitrate )
Here are the produced clip details:
I've uploaded it to YT, but you'll have to download the clip from my OneDrive folder (here's a link) to get the full res version to play with on your end.
Good Luck, and please post back with any questions!
Hi Opto,
question on using VirtualDub and the Codec.
Does that change the video aspect ratio and/or metadata? The issue I have if I export a video file with the Insta360 desktop app to a mp4 format its still showing correctly in the nadirs when viewed in VLC or similar, BUT if I go then to another editor like DaVinci I loose that metadata after editing.
When I then re-inject it as equirectangular spherical, I get black spots at the nadirs. Even when the image ratio is set to 2:1.
EDIT:
Regarding DaVinci I do get an almost perfect metadata injection without backspots now.
With all full sphere 360° cameras, we have multiple image sensors, as no single lens can see everything. For example, in GoPro's Omni camera system, six HERO4 Black Edition cameras are each shooting 2704x2032. So does that mean the resolution should be 6x2704x2032? Well, no, it doesn't. That is the amount of pixel data collected, but it is not the resolution of the stitched 360° image. To produce a 360 image, there is intentional overlap between the cameras with each camera capturing a small segment seen by an adjacent camera. The greater the overlap, the better the stitch quality, however the lower the effective resolution since redundant pixels do not add to the final output. Uikit 3 joomla template. Omni stitches up to 8K, which is the standard 7680 pixels by 3840 (using the common equirectangular 360 projection). Again 8K = 8 x 960 or 7680 pixels. Here, the 8K is the number of pixels across the horizon-line, the unique number of pixels from left to right before the image would repeat. The number pixels across the horizon is a good indicator for resolution, as it is independent of 360° projection type and it is not falsely counting overlap regions as active pixels, so this is what GoPro is using for all our 360° products. 4K 360° means at least 3840 pixels are used across the horizon. 6K is at 5760 pixels, and 5.2K is at least 4992 pixels across the horizon [see figure 1]. All resolutions are determined after stitching.
Fnatic Results for League of Legends. $214,750.00 From 3 Tournaments. 7.67% of Total Prize Money Earned. 2020-10-31: 5th-8th. Fnatic league of legends players. Fnatic, occasionally stylized as fnatic and abbreviated as FNC, is a professional gaming organization with registered offices in the United Kingdom, Australia and the Netherlands. The professional e-Sports team Fnatic Skins: Fnatic Jarvan IV Fnatic Gragas Fnatic Karthus Fnatic Corki Fnatic Janna. Fnatic is a European esports organization that fields teams across many games. The organization entered League of Legends esports in March 2011 with the acquisition of former German team myRevenge. Since then, Fnatic has built a legacy in the scene. Fnatic started strong from the first season.
Reply to this topicThanks! Win 10 64-bit
Ryzen 1700x 3.9 ghz
AsRock Killer sli/ap
Gskill Tridenz 3600 2933 mhz
Vega 64
Powerdirector 17 Ultra installed on SSD
M.2 SSD editing drive
Thanks!
Other users may have the answer, but in the mean time could you upload a short clip to a cloud sharing service and post the link here? That way people can try out some other conversion options as well. Reply
When I imported it int PD17 the thumbnail was white, and when I previewed it or placed on the timeline I heard the audio but the video was nothing but white.
I assumed it was a codec issue, rather than a problem with PD17's max resolution, so I converted the file into MagicYUV (which is what I always use for editing 4k or higher clips), and I could then view and edit the clip easily as seen here:
I wrote up a whole procedure on how to set up and use MagicYUV with PD about 3 years ago, but I had some serious things to deal with in my life at that time, and I stopped posting soon afterwards. None of that info remains on the forum, so I'm not sure how well that whole topic might be received at this point.
In short, the issue you're having is because PD doesn't natively work with the Cineform codec. It's a simple matter of converting it into a compatible format, and I believe there are many posts in the archives dealing with that situation.
Thanks!
Unfortunately the 3 items are not supported in current PowerDirector: 5.2K resolution, CineForm and ProRes codec.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at Oct 01. 2018 04:40
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------PowerDirector 365
Reply
Unfortunately the 3 items are not supported in current PowerDirector: 5.2K resolution, CineForm and ProRes codec.
With all due respect, The King is referring to the 'out-of-the-box' (or freshly-downloaded) state of PowerDirector. He's correct that it doesn't come with either CineForm or ProRes codecs, and the maximum production profiles are set at 4k.
That doesn't mean you can't use PD with 5.2k clips, it just means you have to customize it!
Search the forum for which HD/4k formats people like using with PD, and how they convert the clips. As I mentioned in my last post,
Fusion 360 4k Vs
MagicYUV is my hands-down favorite and you can get the older rev 1.2 codec for free, or pay $9 for the improved v2.0. Get the trial version before you pay.I use VirtualDub2 (VDub2) to do the conversion to MagicYUV, then just import the clip(s) into PD. You'll probably want to use Shadow Files to speed up PD because there's so much data to move around when you're trying to edit any 5.2k clips.
You'll also need to create a custom profile to produce @ 4992x2946 resolution. Follow the excellent advice of ynotfish in this thread for the detailed instructions. I've attached the H.265 MP4 profile I used to produce my sample clip, but you can choose H.264 or other options.
When all that is set, simply choose your custom profile when producing, and you're done! In my previous post, I linked to a GoPro Fusion sample clip. I added some text and produced in PD17. (It's the exact same resolution as the original, but ~12x smaller file size due to the 50Mbps bitrate )
Here are the produced clip details:
I've uploaded it to YT, but you'll have to download the clip from my OneDrive folder (here's a link) to get the original full res version to play with on your end.
Good Luck, and please post back with any questions!
| Filename | |
| Description | Sample GoPro Fusion 5.2k profile |
| Filesize | |
| Downloaded: | 226 time(s) |
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ReplyRyzen 1700x 3.9 ghz
AsRock Killer sli/ap
Gskill Tridenz 3600 2933 mhz
Vega 64
Powerdirector 17 Ultra installed on SSD
M.2 SSD editing drive
With all due respect, The King is referring to the 'out-of-the-box' (or freshly-downloaded) state of PowerDirector. He's correct that it doesn't come with either CineForm or ProRes codecs, and the maximum production profiles are set at 4k.
That doesn't mean you can't use PD with 5.2k clips, it just means you have to accesorize and customize it!
Search the forum for which HD/4k formats people like using with PD, and how they convert the clips. As I mentioned in myu last post, MagicYUV is my hands-down favorite and you can get the older rev 1.2 codec for free, or pay $9 for the improved v2.0. Get the trial version before you pay.
I use VirtualDub2 (VDub2) to do the conversion to MagicYUV, then just import the clip(s) into PD. You'll probably want to use Shadow Files to speed up PD because there's just so much data to move around when you're trying to edit any 5.2k clips.
You'll also need to create a custom profile to produce @ 4992x2946 resolution. Follow the excellent advice of ynotfish in this thread for the detailed instructions. I've attached the H.265 MP4 profile I used to produce my sample clip, but you can choose H.264 or other options.
When all that is set, simply choose your custom profile when producing, and you're done! In my previous post, I linked to a GoPro Fusion sample clip. I added some text and produced in PD17. (It's the exact same resolution as the original, but ~12x smaller file size due to the 50Mbps bitrate )
Here are the produced clip details:
I've uploaded it to YT, but you'll have to download the clip from my OneDrive folder (here's a link) to get the full res version to play with on your end.
Good Luck, and please post back with any questions!
Hi Opto,
question on using VirtualDub and the Codec.
Does that change the video aspect ratio and/or metadata? The issue I have if I export a video file with the Insta360 desktop app to a mp4 format its still showing correctly in the nadirs when viewed in VLC or similar, BUT if I go then to another editor like DaVinci I loose that metadata after editing.
When I then re-inject it as equirectangular spherical, I get black spots at the nadirs. Even when the image ratio is set to 2:1.
EDIT:
Regarding DaVinci I do get an almost perfect metadata injection without backspots now.
What one does need to do (and I did previously wrong!) is to set the exact resolution in the project settings BEFORE importing. The resolution of the mp4 exported from the Insta360 Desktop is the one to use.
I did that now sucessfully by setting the project resolution & importing & exporting with custom 4k 3840x1920 resolution. After export reinject metadata as spherical. Result has minute distortion at nadir.
5.7k @ 5760x2880 does not work in DaVinci either. Can't even set that as import setting. DaVinci does not support MagicYUV.
Wiill that happen when I use the work flow with Inst30OneX Desktop App-VirtualDub2-MagicYUV-PD17?
Thanks for any thoughts on this.
Fran
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ReplyI can convert the video to the MagicYUV then bring it into PD, but then it is almost impossible to edit with the response time.
360 videos look better in the oculus go at 5.2K then they do at 4K.
If I had known this limitation of PD17 early on I would have went with the Adobe Premier subscription.
But now I am stuck.
I can convert the video to the MagicYUV then bring it into PD, but then it is almost impossible to edit with the response time.
360 videos look better in the oculus go at 5.2K then they do at 4K.
Maybe I can clarify a few things here:
First, this is a user forum, and nobody here other than the moderator has any insight as to whether or not Cyberlink will make any specific changes down the road.
Second, I am the main architect of the Magic+PD workflow, and Cyberlink never offered it as a plug-in nor offered any support for MagicYUV. Along with 2 other motivated users, our team did all of the testing and strove to provide support here on the forum back at the end of 2015. Unfortunately, I had some significant life events occur shortly afterwards, and I had not been active on the forum until last September.
Fusion 360 4k
Third, this thread provides the exact steps for creating a 5.2k produce profile that will get your MagicYUV clips out of PD and into your Oculus, so even though that amazing codec isn't 'officially' supported, there are no limitations on using it or on producing the desired UHD video.Please post back if you have any questions about the steps needed. Also, in my opinion, V2.0 of MYUV is definitely worth the $9 fee that its author (Balázs Oroszi) is asking.
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